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How would an online gambling crackdown affect live/home poker games?
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11 Sep 2006 10:14 PM  
As you may know, some people are getting a bit concerned about the spread of online gambling and the associated problems that go with it. I personally think that as with anything it is important to always gamble safely and in moderation.

How do you think a crackdown on online gambling would affect home games? Would they too come under more scrutiny? (it is an offense in some US States to gamble at home gathers etc. already). Would it merely drive the home game market? Or would offshore, online gambling dens emerge and create an online gambling "black market"?

What do you think?

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12 Sep 2006 8:51 PM  
I really think that it will not have much of an affect on home games.  It would really be different for each city probably because the local law enforcement will be the ones that actually have to enforce things.  Like you mention it is already an offense in many sates in teh US to gamble at home - however the LE usually lets these friendly games slide even if they know about them.  There is rarely anything done about a poker game unelss it is a very large operation that involves a large sum of money. 
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13 Sep 2006 8:56 PM  

I read the complete text of the law that is currently working it's way through congress. The main idea of this law is to make banks and internet providers do the enforcement of an online prohibition. This latest arrest is intended to scare the owners of offshore casinos and poker rooms into stopping US patrons from playing. At least as far as online is concerned.

The really sad thing is that if you read it there are so many exceptions. OTB for Horse racing is exempted, Tribal Gaming is exempted and a few others as well. What this amounts to is that (especially in WA State where the tribes have a stranglehold) we are being told it's ok to gamble - as long as we gamble where THEY tell us to. It's completely ridiculous and inconsistent. I worry that once they have "control" of the online, they are going to start going after the home games. There was already one arrest I read about and they came in and took all the money that was in the house - not just what might have been on the table at the time.

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17 Sep 2006 2:52 PM  

There will at some point need to be some regulation toward online gambling if for no other reason to protect consumers.  To crackdown on offshore gambling as criminal is not going to be very effective because internet access and offshore bank access is too easy.  It would seem to me that regulating it with thought would be a better idea.

I question gambling regulation as it exists in this country today.  The Indians are really exempt from very many laws, and even in Vegas there's something of a weirdness about regulations.  Rather than trying to ban the inevitable, our lawmakers need to think this through.  Gambling is not going away!

I doubt home games would be affected unless, as someone else said, it's more than a weekly get to gether and more of a commerical venture.

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20 Sep 2006 1:04 AM  
I had not even considered this until just now.  Playing poker in my home is illegal.  Wow!  What a thought.  It just doesn't seem like gambling - it seems more like entertainment, if that makes sense.
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22 Sep 2006 12:07 PM  
I don't think it will effect the average home game in the least.  Because poker is so popular, I think they're realizing how few restrictions there actually are on online gambling.  That's the culprit lol.  You don't have to hide those chips!
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22 Sep 2006 3:57 PM  
I don't think it will affect the home gambling at all.  They have too much trouble monitoring the gambling casinos, they don't have time to peek into individuals lives just to make a few bucks in fines.  Their efforts would be better served elswhere.
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24 Sep 2006 2:25 AM  

I can just see the headlines now - "local gambling ring busted . . ." ;)

It is illegal, though.  But we went by a diner that was advertising "TEXAS HOLDEM" and I had to wonder how they are pulling it off. 

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24 Sep 2006 9:29 PM  
The cafe must not be allowing betting with money is all I can think of.  I had a friend who owned a country inn here in New England, and we would play poker sometimes in winter when things were very quiet, but he warned us to not say anything to others and to stop if someone we didn't know came in.  He could have lost his liquor license.
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08 Oct 2006 3:00 AM  
I have a friend that hosts a game in his diner almost every night.  But it's after hours, and it's a friend game, so I don't think his license would be in jeapordy.  Who knows though.  When "they" are out to make an example of someone "they" tend to go overboard.  Maybe I should tell him to watch his back.
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26 Oct 2006 5:11 AM  
If anything, I think they'd become a lot more popular.  Since they can't play online, where can they?  Casinos are far to few, so I'm sure that people will see it as an opportunity to host more games, and try to make some more money from the rake. 
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27 Oct 2006 3:01 AM  
In all reality, I don't think the new law will do anything to the home game.  In most states, the home game is already technically illegal and they still go on.  I would think that, like Bryan, if it does anything it will only increase the number of games that are out there.  People gotta get their poker fix somehow.
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04 Nov 2006 11:43 PM  

IT would only help the homegame their are still online poker sites you can play so the law will actually have little affect.

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06 Nov 2006 12:33 AM  
The only thing the new law might do is make local authorities more aware of the popularity of poker.  It won't directly effect the home games because poker (or atleast gambling) is already illegal in most states.
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07 Nov 2006 4:25 AM  
how could the police not be aware of it? unless they live in a cave. They most likely have better things to do then harass some poker games. running a poker game that takes a rake is only a misdamenor they really could care less
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16 Nov 2006 11:17 PM  
I think that if they started getting more aggressive with players online, at home games might follow, but some people are going to play no matter what. It's likely the bets will change from money to something else, or perhaps there will be a lot of people do the "friendly penny game" with pennies or chips representing real cash in an inferred form.
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19 Nov 2006 8:01 PM  
People have  been doing stuff even though it's been considered illegal for a long time. Just think about moonshine and such. It's a silly law, but these sorts of laws go in and out all the time. I say it won't change playing for me.
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08 Dec 2006 6:10 PM  
It's hard to say. I think sometimes people take advantage of the opportunity to play online 24/7 with disasterous results, but then again, people will gamble if they want to.
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13 Dec 2006 6:27 PM  
I think the issue with online poker (like most commodities) is about taxes.  The government has always liked to regulate anything it can make money from or at least it's backers (i.e. corporations) can make money from.  You're only in trouble at a home game if it gets big enough to make the state feel like it is missing out.
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05 Mar 2007 8:26 AM  

[QUOTE]rod wrote
As you may know, some people are getting a bit concerned about the spread of online gambling and the associated problems that go with it. I personally think that as with anything it is important to always gamble safely and in moderation.

How do you think a crackdown on online gambling would affect home games? Would they too come under more scrutiny? (it is an offense in some US States to gamble at home gathers etc. already). Would it merely drive the home game market? Or would offshore, online gambling dens emerge and create an online gambling "black market"?

What do you think?

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I think online gambling gives entertainment to the people. One way to control it is to implement an age limit to the fact that gambling brings no good to the kids especially students.

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