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Is there no way to import players from Tournament Director 2?

Unfortunately there is no way to do this in the current version of the PokerDIY League software. There are some issues with creating accounts on behalf of people without their consent, so I decided to tackle this in a later version. Currently you need to add the players to your league first, before importing. You can then match up the players with your TD players on import (the details are not always the same in the 2).

I will think about this for the next version - so basically if the player does not exist you have the option to "Add this Player to the league". The thing is, they might exist on PokerDIY but not be a member of your league, so I don't want to create duplicates. I guess I could do some checking on name/email etc. and suggest if a player is on PokerDIY already.

Can you let me know how you would like this feature to work please?

Would be nice (speaking on my own behalf only :D) if unregistered players can be imported from a tournament with Name only (and maybe with an e-mail, if registered in TD) , just to display the names on the league page. Then maybe on a later stage, if that player wants to register I can link that players nickname to the name displayed in the league.

Yes, you are right - that would be the best way of doing it - unfortunately the backend system requires a user record per league entrant.

I have solution though - I'm going to work on this in the next 3-4 days - it will appear function similarily to the "Add External User" to the league - I'll let you know more details soon..

Please note that this functionality has now been released - it is now much easier to add non-pokerDIY members from your Tournament Director imports to your league without having to set them up manually first.

Adding players to pokerDIY from a TD export is easier now.. but I still would like to list names of players without having to register them as users.. .since some of the players in our previous games are not going to be in the league..

Hi Spike,

Ok, there is an architectural limitation that every user needs to have a valid user account, which means a valid email address. This unfortuantely also needs to be unique (otherwise we could use a default one for all extra users in the league).

There may be a simple solution to this problem - I need to try and understand your requirements better.

What is it that you don't like - the fact that you need to enter an email/username for a player, or that fact they show up in the League Member list at the bottom of the league? (this would be the easiest to change whereas the former would be a nightmare to even consider - the least amount of data I need is an email (I could even randomly generate a username but this would not be helpful).)

If it is merely that they show up in the league member list then I could add a filter and a "type" of user - maybe Regular, One Off etc, or it could be based on how many games they have played (setable at league level). It could also be a rule for the current season - ie. to be a league member you must have played in at least one game this season (current season). The rest of the data would stay the same but there would just be selectable views to hide irregular players from view on the League Detail page members list.

Out of interest - "since some of the players in our previous games are not going to be in the league" - can you give an example of when this happens?

[QUOTE]Rodders wrote

What is it that you don't like - the fact that you need to enter an email/username for a player, or that fact they show up in the League Member list at the bottom of the league? (this would be the easiest to change whereas the former would be a nightmare to even consider - the least amount of data I need is an email (I could even randomly generate a username but this would not be helpful).)

 Out of interest - "since some of the players in our previous games are not going to be in the league" - can you give an example of when this happens?
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Hm. ok.. I'll try my best to explain why I even ask about this. The background story is..

Once a year, the company i work for, throw a party for our customers with some sort of activity. The last two years we have had poker tournaments, with great success. Since we try to have a different theme/activity each year for this party, we wanted to do something different next year, but those who attended our poker tournaments wants more, and others are not that interested in poker. I then got the idea of starting a league, so that we can please those who wanted more poker, and please the once that would like a different activity at next years party.

Those who will join our league I will register, since they probably want to keep track of games and scores. But.. I also want to post the results from the last two years, just as a kind of history. The problem comes when there where people attending the last two tournaments who are NOT going to be in the future league. Some of the guys that attended f.ex. in 2007 are not that interested in joining the league, and some have changed jobs, so they are not "eligable" for the league.

I don't want to register people that aren't going to be in the league, but I do want to show the complete results from 2007 and 2008 parties. Then ones that attended the two parties AND are going to be in the league (the ones i already registered) show quite fine... but looking at the results, when the ones that I haven't registered are omitted, the results table suddenly have holes in it... It now only shows the 12 players I have registered, when it in fact was 21 people attending the tourney.

Hope that clearified some for you, and also gave you the example you was asking for. :D

Keep up the good work, Rod. I admire the fact that you even bother running such a site :D

Spike

Ok, thanks for the detailed example Spike! To be honest, I love this site and being a complete nerd I love coding so it's not hard to work on it ;)

Right, so this boils back down to the problem of having to enter an email address. I assume you plan on entering some sort of name for them to identify them (if you entered everyone as Guest it would not be useful).

How about this - I'll check if it is possible to override the unique mail restriction - if it is then I'll set up a guest at pokerDIY.com email account - the page will look pretty much the same (you can still change the suggested username) but you will be able to check a record as a "Guest". This will create a dummy user account with the guest email (this is just so that if any email comes to it I can monitor it - say for example if a user does join and wants to use their account I can change it to their email and there is no loss of data). Obviously the person will not get any email and there is no way for them to use that account or log on (if you set your league to private then a user would need to log on to see it).

This person will be treated exactly the same as all other league members - ie. they will appear in the league member list etc. Maybe in the future I can add a Player Status of "Regular"/"Active etc. that a league owner could set on these users to remove them from the league member list view but I think this is a lower priority than having to obtain or enter their email address.

It's still not 100% ideal technically but with the right UI it should be ok. What do you think?

WoW..

I think you hit the nail spot on.

Another possibilty for if the user wants to join later, might be that if a "Guest" creates his own account I could then link his name to his new account??  maybe??

just trying to create the questions before anyting is implemented hehe

Spike

Yes, that would be a view I have though of often - if someone accidentally enters the wrong person onto their league and you need to match up user accounts - it could be open to abuse but it's definitely an option!

I'll get this enhancement done in the next week (I need to move onto some other stuff first) - let me know if it is holding you up though!

I have also started a thread on the proposed scoring enhancements - please have a read and let me know how your league scoring works and if that would cater for it.

[QUOTE]Rodders wrote

I'll get this enhancement done in the next week (I need to move onto some other stuff first) - let me know if it is holding you up though!

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Great going man... no rush on my behalf :D